RASC Calgary Centre - What if Earth Had a Second Moon

By Larry McNish
Page last updated April 7, 2020
Page originally created April 2, 2020

Question: How would Earth's tides change if it had two moons instead of one?

Answer:


Predicting the Earth's tides (how big, where, and when per day) is one of the most difficult problems in mathematics and astronomy.

It is said that Newton (who invented the laws of gravity and planetary motion) said solving that prediction problem nearly made him mad it was so complicated.[Citation needed but I can't find one] And Newton never succeeded in coming up with a complete simple mathematical formula solution.

If there are just two objects in a region of space that are orbiting each other, the solution is fairly straightforward according to Newton's law of universal gravitation.

When there are three objects (e.g. the Sun, the Earth, and the Moon) orbiting around each other and co-affecting each other, it is called the "3-Body Problem" and no mathematical formula has ever been worked out that totally solves a 3-Body problem. The best that we can do is to "model" the gravitational attraction between the Sun-Earth, Earth-Moon and Sun-Moon and let the computer model run over time until it needs adjustments when it no longer predicts the reality of the tides.

The first "computational" attempt to solve this complicated problem was the Tide-predicting machine conceived by Sir William Thomson and built in 1872-3.

The 10-component tide-predicting machine of 1872-3, conceived by Sir William Thomson (Lord Kelvin),
and designed by Thomson and collaborators, at the Science Museum, South Kensington, London

Image credit: The Science Museum, South Kensington, London

Mathematicians and astronomers have now done this with supercomputers and they have achieved great precision, but it is not a "mathematical solution" that can predict the 3 bodies positions and their effect on each other (tides) over all time.

Now, if we add a second Moon to Earth that has any significant size and distance from the Earth's centre we get a "4-Body Problem". At the current state of mathematical theory - we have no way of "solving" that, and again would have to rely on a computer model. Then astronomers would have to accurately measure the positions of all 4 objects every so often, and add or subtract "adjustment terms" to the model to make it agree with the actual positions. It would never be a "complete" model.

If we consider the rest of the Solar System as well (mainly Jupiter) ALSO contributing slightly to the pulls that the Sun, Earth and Moon feel, then we get what is called the Dynamic Solution to the problem. This consists of 10 sets of data (Sun and 9 planets), with up to 16 parameters each, and a mathematical model that takes all that, and time, into consideration to provide an answer as to where the Sun and planets are.
(Ref: https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/?planet_pos#formulae
and: https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/txt/aprx_pos_planets.pdf)

OK, so it would be mathematically complicated but for all real-word purposes it could be done.

The net effect on the tides would by a combination of the Lunar Tides (twice a day), the smaller Solar Tides (twice a day) and the 2nd Moon tides - which depending on its size and orbit could be a few or many tides per day. Periodically the tides would "add up" to be either a higher tide, or they could "even out" to become a lower tide. ("neap" tides and "spring tides"). See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide.

Here is an animation of the tides courtesy of NOAA - the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration


Note: This animation spans a month - the time it takes the Moon to orbit the Earth.
You have to imagine the Earth spinning around about 28 times during this interval
and locations around the Earth encountering these tides every day.

We can safely say that there is no object of any significant size anywhere in the Solar System that could "wander in" and become an Earth 2nd Moon.

What is possible (and has happened) is that a tiny asteroid might come near the Earth and get captured by the Earth-Moon system. This would result in two things:
  1. It would be so small compared to the mass of the Sun, Earth and Moon that it would cause no noticeable difference in our tides.

  2. As the smallest member of a 4-Body problem, it would just be a matter of time before gravitational effects"tossed" it out of the Earth-Moon system, as is happening right now with Earth's current "second moon":
    Ref: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/02/mini-moon-earth/607171/
    and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claimed_moons_of_Earth
So, the answer to the question is that the effect of a second Moon would be a varying cyclic change (height and time or times-of day) to the existing tides based on the 2nd Moon's mass, its orbit shape (circular or elliptical), its orbital inclination (tilt from the Equator), it's distance at any specific given time, its orbital period (month), etc.

If the Earth ever had a second Moon that was of any significant size, it would most likely have been ejected from the Earth-Moon system millions or billions of years ago due to the instability of the orbits of objects within a 4-Body system.

It's a good thing we aren't living on Jupiter with 79 moons, or Saturn with 82 moons, Uranus (27), Neptune (14), or Pluto (5). Calculating the tides would be a tremendous job.



p.s.

Here's a scale diagram animation showing that the Moon does not orbit a "stationary" Earth, but due to the large size (and mass) of the Earth's Moon, they both orbit around a "common centre of gravity" called the Barycenter, which makes the Earth seem to "wobble" as seen from the Sun.



More information on this can be found below the diagram here: https://calgary.rasc.ca/barycenter.htm

And here is a 50 year animation of the Sun's actual location in space which varies due to the pull of all the planets in their various orbits. from: https://calgary.rasc.ca/orbits.htm#barycenter




You can see a similar scale-diagram animation of the Moon orbiting the Earth
and causing the Earth to wobble as it orbits the Sun above.






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